Chris Uggen's Blog: longevity and risk

Friday, August 18, 2006

longevity and risk

between sociology meetings last week, i commiserated with my friend charis about the complications of modern-day baseball fandom. she's younger than me, but was a dodgers fan back in the steve garvey-ron cey-manny mota-davey lopes* era. i loved that team and their series rival oakland athletics, in part because their lineups were so stable from year to year.

those days are gone, of course, and few kids today could name the local nine. here's the opening day lineup of another of my favorite teams from the mid-1970s, listed by position and years of service with that team on opening day. can you guess the team and year? a couple hints are listed below.

second base: 14 years
right field: 21 years
designated hitter: 11 years
first base: 14 years
catcher: 2 years (hint: regular catcher had 12 years with team)
left field: 10 years
center field: 10 years
third base: 3 years
shortstop: 3 years
starting pitcher: 11 years

total: 99 years, for average of 9.9 years of service with the same team per player.

this year's lineup for the same team?

centerfield: 3 years
second base: 2 years
catcher: 3 years
right field: 2 years
designated hitter: 5 years
first base: 3 years
shortstop: 3 years
left field: 5 years
third base: 5 years
pitcher: 1 year

total: 32 years, for average of 3.2 years per player.

ok, i'll dork out and offer a real hint: you can see one player's name from the first box score on most of the small batteries (e.g., AA or AAA cell) you have around the house. it wouldn't be much fun to list opening day lineups of sociology or criminology departments in the 1970s. in contrast to baseball, free agency seems to have had little effect on the professoriate.

the first non-anonymous commenter to correctly guess the team might get a worthless but old baseball card from said team. since that would require dealing with some scary spiders in the basement, i can offer no guarantees.

* as a little league second baseman/pitcher, davey lopes was one of my favorite (non-twin) players. i still cite him as an example of being too conservative or not taking enough chances in one's career. i thought he was the best base-stealer ever, perhaps better than rickey henderson or lou brock. but he didn't run enough. in fact, his career ratio of stolen bases to caught-stealings was five to one, whereas mr. henderson's was approximately four to one and mr. brock's was about three to one. during his prime, mr. lopes almost never got caught and it was over ten to one. this induced me to yell run, davey, run! at the tv whenever he got on base. of course, my own gutsy-but-excruciatingly slow baserunning success/failure ratio was closer to one to four, so i really shouldn't have been offering mr. lopes any advice on this matter.

5 Comments:

At 6:37 AM, Blogger Radio Free Newport said...

Detroit Tigers, 1973. Great hint on Kaline.

As for the Dodgers, a group of terrorists could've kidnapped my parents and I wouldn't have hated them more than I did those LA teams. They were great, but they were no Big Red Machine!

Dave, 2B and #8 on my Little League team in honor of Joe Morgan (except I was all glove, no hit)

 
At 9:21 AM, Anonymous chris said...

nice work, newport! the al kaline thing stumped me once, so i thought i'd pass it along. as for the reds, joe morgan might have been the all-time best at second. as a kid, i'd mimic his "elbow pump" in the batter's box, but even that couldn't save me as a hitter. mr. morgan needed no steroids, but i bet his power numbers would have been amazing had he played in the 1990s.

 
At 8:27 PM, Blogger Mike W. said...

I would be willing to wager away any and all baseball cards I own (which, sadly, is none) that Dave figured this out in under five minutes, and without the help of google.

Unlike those sorts of people who Ralph Nader and Noam Chomsky point to as evidence of how intelligent Americans truly are, yet how impractically it's applied (sports nerds), Dave manages to deftly balance both sports and sociological nerd-dom.

And he represents Newport. Can't disagree with that.

 
At 8:39 PM, Blogger Woz said...

While I figured out the Al Kaline hint (not knowing there was a player of that name, it's just that I didn't think there was a player named "Ray Ovac"), I didn't come up with the '73 Tigers, due to their existance as a team preceeding my existance as a living entity by just shy of a decade. It's ironic that I read this post today because just this afternoon when I was watching Jeapardy! I was musing on the fact that my age would be my biggest handicap on the show, for while I know who Bela Karoli is, I'd probably remember more about him if I had an extra 10-20 years of age on me. Thgough after celebrating another birthday, I can feel the grey hairs creeping in...

 
At 11:22 PM, Anonymous chris said...

mike, i've allocated way too much mental hard disk space to baseball stats and music trivia (e.g., does anyone else really care who played guitar for howlin' wolf or warren zevon or the king in '68?). we are who we are, i guess, and somehow i must find this stuff calming.

woz, ray o'vac actually played 19 games at third for the '62 mets. age is no excuse, dude, you've still gotta do your homework. you wouldn't just read the social theory written after 1982, would you? ok, don't answer that. regardless, if you're gonna be a twins fan you've gotta go deep with your bombo rivera and "big train" carl willis knowledge. for the record, mr. kaline had 3007 hits, a .297 lifetime average, and won ten gold gloves as perhaps the greatest defensive right fielder ever. in short, he was no michael cuddyer.

 

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